Or first cousins perhaps. There is a Doilie-along over at Ravelry for the Doilie Heads group, and I decided to join because I’ve never knit a doily before. I’m happy to say it wasn’t as difficult as I thought it would be! Here are my results. First, the crochet version (although I did it second).
And the details:
Thread: Aunt Lydia’s Classic Crochet (size 10) in Victory Red. The colour’s much richer in real life, not the washed-out version of my camera. I’ve never felt constrained to use only white for doilies, I don’t know why. It seems limiting somehow, my skills, resources and abilities are limited enough already without adding colour restrictions to the constraints. Here is my Ravelry page for the project.
I quite liked the feel of the thread, although it isn’t shiny like the Anchor and Red Heart we get here, it’s soft. Slightly fuzzy though, and might not stand up to rough use (will pill).
Hook: Pony handled steel hook 1.75mm
Pattern: Antlia from Patrizia Pisani (CrochetPatty of Patty’s Filet and Crocheting Page). She has lovely patterns, I don’t know why I haven’t done more of them. Although I suspect I might have done the odd one before my blogging days. Alas, no photographic evidence exists. I wrote too soon. There is one other project I have evidence of. I think I made it while we were living in Bombay, so it’s at least 4 years old. I might have given it away too.
Time: Two days
Size: 12″
Extra #1 Compared to the knit version, this isn’t as elegant and delicate as I’d like, but then I suppose that’s what you get with size 10 thread. Makes the point that with the same fibre, knit is always finer (unless you want to make holey and too-loose crochet). Quick and easy, though. Badly blocked as usual.
#2 There is what appears to be one error in the instructions. Replace the ‘dc’ in the final row with ‘sc’ and it works.
#3 No specific picot version is given in the pattern, so I did a ch 3, slip st in first ch.
Now for the knit version.
Thread: Same as above. I wanted to make the material same, to emphasise the difference between the two techniques. Point made, I think.
Someone suggested I should use wool, but the thread gave me some familiarity. I do have some laceweight wool, but it terrifies me.
Needles: Unknown metal US 1/2.25mm needles (my only set of 5 given to me by Heide). I was afraid I didn’t have the right size of needles for this project, and would have much preferred using a circular, perhaps, but I found these worked quite nicely for me. Although perhaps I was wrong to apply my crochet logic (use the size that minimises gaping), but should have instead gone up a size or two. Might have made the knitting lacier. Don’t know if I’d have liked it, though. This one, I’m quite happy with.
The beginning was quite fiddly. I wasn’t sure I hadn’t twisted the stitches, not in joining, but in knitting the rounds. In such fine thread, it’s difficult to make out what you’ve done or which side you’re on. On the group the advice (after I’d finished) was to use a pillow to support the needles until you stabilise. Might try that the next time. Yes, I do hope there will be a next time! Knitting lace with yarn is frightening, but not so much with thread. Itty-bitty thread, I’m used to.
Pattern: Flacon from Yarnover.net. Here is my Ravelry project page.
Time: Two days
Size: 8″
Extra #1 Finished with crochet loops, and I wasn’t too sure I was doing the binding off (between the knit and the crochet rounds) correctly, but it doesn’t look odd. The pattern doesn’t specify how you insert your needle when you are crocheting three knit stitches together, so I just did what was convenient. I suppose I could have looked it up, but I wanted to finish. 🙂
#2 The knit fabric doesn’t give much opportunity for hiding ends, unlike crochet. I had to think a bit for this.
#3 I broke a personal barrier with this one!
#4 The knit band was unusual for me because unlike in a crochet doily where you have to increase the number of stitches each round to prevent puckering, these 6 rounds had the same number of stitches throughout. Apparently because of the height of knit stitches is much less than that of crochet ones.
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March 27, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Rima
So very beautiful and intricate! I love the rich color…
March 28, 2008 at 3:27 am
Smellyann
Oh, how cool! Very interesting the way you did both of them together like that. Great post!
March 28, 2008 at 3:55 am
desiknitter
They’re lovely! I’d say fraternal twins, but boy and girl! I actually think the crochet one stands out so much more, due to the ridges – they almost make that flower dance as you look at it. But I also like the three little ones near the big petals in the knit version too.
March 28, 2008 at 4:30 am
sara
wowza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always envy your abilities!
March 28, 2008 at 4:46 am
thekidneybean
That is so neat how you made the same pattern with knit and crochet. I like the crochet version better – maybe because I’m nore of a croheter than a knitter. I like how the flower petals have a swirl to then that just doesn’t stand out in the knit version. Very interesting to read about!
March 28, 2008 at 9:52 am
Cindy
What an interesting comparison! And in late answer to your question, I never did get a chance to really learn crochet from Rima. Am hoping to try it at some point when I have a spot of free time and a clear head. That is bound to happen at some point, right? 🙂
I like them both equally by the way! Which do you like?
March 28, 2008 at 5:01 pm
onhooksandneedles
i love the two versions together..you almost tempt me to pick up my abandoned knitting needles.
March 30, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Samantha Stopple
Both of them are beautiful and I love the red thread too. I need to make both of those too. I have yet to knit a doily but it is on my to do list.
June 26, 2008 at 8:08 pm
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July 16, 2022 at 4:37 pm
Ellen Delgado
Loveed reading this thank you